Judgement Submissions

With the demise of Trance Metal, this release has ended up in The Horde under Melodic Death metal which seems entirely inappropriate. I'd suggest that it will appeal much more the Power Metal fans than Death Metal ones so I'd like to a) see this release added to The Guardians under the Power Metal genre & b) see it removed from The Horde.

This nomination has been added to the Hall of Judgement.

However, similar to My Dying Bride's "Symphonaire Infernus Et Spera Empyrium", while there are some standard death metal elements in the demos, death-doom is much closer to doom.

I don't see this release in the same way as I did "Symphonaire Infernus Et Spera Empyrium" which included just a single short death metal track between two death/doom numbers. "Drown In Darkness" includes twelve tracks which offer a roughly even split of classic death metal & death/doom. It's really not that relevant whether death/doom is much closer to doom metal as a good half of this release isn't death/doom & that's kinda the point of the dual tag which I feel is warranted here. I'm going with a NO vote on this Hall of Judgement entry as it's my opinion that this release belongs in The Horde just as much as it does in The Fallen.

Sure thing, Daniel.

This nomination has now been added to the Hall of Judgement.

This nomination has now been added to the Hall of Judgement.

BABYMETAL's self-titled debut album really doesn't have all that much of a trance influence outside of a couple of tracks. It sits far more comfortably under The Gateway than The Revolution so I'd like to see the Trance Metal tag removed along with its The Revolution status.

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I'd describe Void of Silence's 2002 sophomore album as being blackened/gothic doom metal with the gothic component being significant enough to warrant the Gothic Metal tag in my opinion. I'd like to have the Gothic Metal genre added to the release on top of its existing position under Doom Metal.

I've added the release to the Hall of Judgement.

With a vote tally of YES 6 NO 0, I've decided that this is conclusive enough to make the change. Thank you to everyone that contributed to the result.

I've passed this nomination as the album already qualifies for inclusion in The Sphere without going to a vote. The relevant change has been made in the database.

The 1981 self-titled debut album from Nottinghamshire NWOBHM act Limelight is really a combination of dirty pub-style hard rock with a more expansive & melodic progressive rock sound. There's only one genuine metal track of the seven on offer so I'd like to see the album removed from The Guardians & added to Non-Metal.

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Kryptograf's debut is tagged as doom metal, but apart from one track and a bit of a riff on another, I don't think there is enough to justify a metal tag as a primary. The album is overwhelmingly heavy psych and hard rock. I propose that the album is moved from The Fallen to Non-Metal and the doom metal tag removed.

With a vote tally of YES 5 NO 0, I've decided to pass this nomination & have made the required adjustments to the database.

This release has been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

There's not a single song on this one-off NWOBHM album that I regard as being legitimate metal. Instead we get a classic hard rock sound mixed with strong southern rock influences & a touch of AOR here & there. I'd like to see it removed from The Guardians & placed under Non-Metal.

The release has been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

I've made the requested changes in the database as this release already qualifies.

I've made the requested changes in the database as this release already qualifies.

I've made the requested changes in the database as this release already qualifies.

With a vote tally of YES 5 NO 0, I've decided to uphold this nomination & the changes have been made in the database.

I said it about Primus' debut album "Frizzle Fry" & the same goes for their sophomore album. There's very little actual metal on offer in this record & I honestly have no idea where people a getting the link from other than Larry's past association with death metal godfathers Possessed. To my ears this record is experimental alternative/funk rock so I'd like to see "Sailing The Seas of Cheese" removed from The Gateway & added to Non-Metal.

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I've decided that the YES 5 NO 0 vote tally is enough to pass this nomination so "Mekong Delta" has been added to The Infinite under the Progressive Metal genre on top of its position in The Pit.

This nomination has now been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

This submission has now been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

This submission has now been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

I revisited this release a few times yesterday & have to say that I still find it to be an amazing release all these years later. I'd already heard the "Towards The Sinister" demo by that point but it hadn't done very much for me to be honest so this was the first MDB release that I could really connect with. The gothic monster that is the classic doom/death title track was a revelation while the heavily Bolt Thrower influenced "God Is Alone" is some of the finest death metal you'll hear. It really doesn't matter all that much that the instrumentalists technical skills were still very basic & the production job isn't all that strong.

For fans of Paradise Lost, Anathema & Novembers Doom.

4.5/5

I have to say that I agree with your submission Andi as only "God Is Alone" could be classed as legitimate death metal. It's a YES vote from me.

Cool Feet's 1976 debut album "Burning Desire" is generally labelled as "Hard Rock/Heavy Metal" but there's really only a couple of metal tunes amongst the eight included so I'd like to see it removed from The Guardians & added to Non-Metal.

I've subsequently added the release to the Hall of Judgement.

Saw this one coming, haha. 

I'm in full agreement on this though. 

This feels like another case of a Metal guitarist being on a project, so it must be Metal, right?

Although The Ocean is known for their blend of post-sludge and progressive metal, Pelagial is definitely a more progressive ocean. You can only find a small bit of ambience around the surface, and a couple sludgy tracks at the crushing bottom, with practically everything else in between being as progressive as progressive metal can be. So I agree with you on this one, Daniel.

With a vote tally of YES 5 NO 0, I've decided to uphold my submission to have "Misanthropy" added to The Horde under the Death Metal (Conventional) genre.

OK, thanks Daniel.

I've decided to pass this Hall nomination based on the conclusive YES 6 NO 1 vote tally. "Know Your Enemy" has been added to The Guardians under the eavy Metal genre.

I completely agree with you here Andi. This record has no business in The Horde despite the clear At The Gates influence.

This is an interesting one Andi as I've never felt that "Energetic Disassembly" was a thrash metal record to tell you the truth. To my ears it's a progressive metal release with a few thrashy parts. I can't say that I remember much in the way of speed metal though so I've gone with a YES on one Hall entry & a NO on the other.

Bewitcher's 2021 third album "Cursed Be Thy Kingdom" sees the trio dropping the speed metal tempo on half of the material, instead utilizing a heavy metal sound that's not all that dissimilar to Judas Priest. When combined with the blackened vocals of Unholy Weaver of Shadows & Incantations I find this material to sound very much like black 'n' roll so I'd like to see the album added to The North under the black 'n' roll subgenre while remaining in The Pit under speed metal.

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Agent Steel's 1986 "Mad Locust Rising" E.P. includes just the three tracks, two of which are clearly thrash metal & the other being a fairly faithful (if slightly more metallic) Judas Priest cover version. There really isn't any genuine speed metal on offer so I'd like to make two nominations:

1. Add the release to the Thrash Metal genre under Thrash Metal (Conventional).

2. If successful, remove the release from the Speed Metal genre.

The first nomination has been added to the Hall of Judgement.

OK, thanks Daniel!

This submission has been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

This nomination has been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

This release has been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

I've decided that a YES 1 NO 6 tally is close enough to a consensus on this one so I've denied my submission & "Nothingface" will remain in The Infinite under the Progressive Metal genre.

Exciter may well be the definitive speed metal band but 1986's "Unveiling The Wicked" album saw them slowing things down with a more commercially accessible heavy metal approach. As a result, I'd like to nominate the release for two Hall submissions:

1. Add it to The Guardians under Heavy Metal.

2. If that's successful then remove it from The Pit & remove the Speed Metal genre.

The first nomination has been posted in the Hall of Judgement.

2015's "Abyss of Longing Throats" album from Surinamese producer Gnaw Their Tongues is generally labelled as Black Metal/Black Noise however I feel that there's enough Industrial Metal to warrant inclusion in The Sphere on top of its existing position in The North.

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The lone self-titled full-length from US Black Noise artist Nahvalr offers just as much in the way of Post-Metal so I'd like to see it added to The infinite on top of its existing position in The North.

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It may be very extreme but Gnaw Their Tongues' "Genocidal Majesty" album is clearly a Power Electronics record in my opinion with very little actual metal on offer. As a result I'd like to see the release removed from The North & placed under Non-Metal.

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The 1993 debut album from unusual Swedish artist Abruptum is generally tagged as Black Metal & Black Noise however I don't think the Black Metal component is prevalent enough to be deemed a primary genre. I'd suggest that the Avant-Garde Metal tag is much more appropriate to I'd like to post two submissions:

1. Have the album added to The Infinite under Avant-Garde Metal &

2. Have the album removed from The North.

I've just posted the first submission in the Hall of Judgement.

The 2017 fourth album from Canadian artist La Torture des ténèbres really doesn't contain much in the way of metal. It's much more of traditional Noise release so I'd like to see it removed from The North & added to Non-Metal.

I've posted this release in the Hall of Judgement.

The 1988 debut album from English outfit Deviated Instinct is generally labelled as Stenchcore however I don't hear much in the way of metal. It's a conventional Crust Punk release in my opinion so I'd like to see it removed from The Pit & placed under Non-Metal.

I've posted this release in the Hall of Judgement.

Didn't think I'd win this.  Still, I got the message and discussion out, and that's good enough for me.