Judgement Submissions

And what happens if this is voted a no then Andi? Does that mean that you'll never listen to it again & will remove your review so that you won't be linked to death metal?

For the record, I'll be voting no here.

Should Venom's "Possessed" be in The Pit?

Daniel 5 years ago

I was only joking Andi. I'm fine with the result if that's the way the members have voted but, just to be clear, I wouldn't class ANY of Venom's first four records as legitimate speed metal as (in much the same way as Motorhead) there's no more than the odd speed metal song here & there. Take the "Black Metal" album for example. Of the ten songs included, I challenge anyone to identify more than two tracks that qualify for the speed metal tag. It's really only the title track & "Heaven's On Fire" as far as I can see. The rest all fall under traditional heavy metal with the possible exception of "Teacher's Pet" which is more of a blues/punk/hard rock effort than it is metal. Is 20% of the tracklisting enough for a legitimate speed metal tag? I don't think so as the fact that it's 70% heavy metal comfortably outweighs any speed metal reference but that's just my two cents.

Special Horde removal judgement submission week: Day 7 - The Gathering's "Downfall: The Early Years"

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) 5 years ago

Thanks Ben! And good timing too, my departure from death metal (https://metal.academy/forum/10/thread/748) is only a couple days away. All that's left is my submission for Persefone's Core to be removed from the Horde (https://metal.academy/forum/28/thread/688), could you please add that to the Hall during your next judgement submission addition round? Thanks again!

Hexecutor's "Beyond Any Human Conecption Of Knowledge..."

Ben 5 years ago

This release has been added to the Hall of Judgement.

Godflesh's "Post Self" should be in The Infinite

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) 5 years ago

Cool, thanks Ben!

Running Wild's "Death Or Glory"

Daniel 5 years ago

Ben, please also create an entry for Running Wild's "Wild Animal" E.P. for the exact same reasons.

Alcest's "Les Voyages de l'Âme" should be in The Infinite (post-metal) and The North (blackgaze) (can be two separate submissions or one)

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) 5 years ago

So I gave Les Voyages de l'Âme a full listen and review, and I was right about this album being metal, specifically post-metal and blackgaze, as heard in most of the album, though the band does what most other black metal bands wouldn't do; evoke hope and tranquil beauty. With my feeling for this release unchanged, I'd like to try again to submit Alcest's "Les Voyages de l'Âme" with the proposal of being added into The Infinite with the post-metal tag and The North with the blackgaze tag (can be two separate submissions with one for each clan, or one for both).

Riot's "Rock City"

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) 5 years ago

I've never been too sure about the release year for Riot's Rock City being 1977, despite popular belief. Barely anyone has heard of them until at least 1978, which was the year they started selling a decently prominent amount of copies and performed with AC/DC and Molly Hatchet, and then later right when they were about to lose momentum, DJ Neal Kay of the Bandwagon Soundhouse helped spread the word about them in the UK, earning the band a higher fanbase and encouraging them to continue. And even though the original vinyl label says 1977, that's not highly reliable because some CD/vinyl publishing years might be slightly false (like for example, Symphony X's The Divine Wings of Tragedy has the release year label 1996 even though its official release year is 1997). With that, I'd like the release year for Riot's Rock City to be changed to 1978.

And by the way, sure this album is mostly hard rock, but I think there's plenty of the heavy metal you would find in bands like Accept and the more popular Iron Maiden...

The Body's "I've Seen All I Need to See" should be removed from The Fallen

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) 5 years ago

I just think it's too close to darkwave and death industrial for the most part, but since you two prefer to keep the drone tag, we'll put this submission on hold now.

Riot's "ThunderSteel"

Daniel 5 years ago

Riot's "ThunderSteel" offers a combination of heavy metal, power metal & speed metal & subsequently fits perfectly into the US power metal bracket. There's a three track run in the middle of the record that I'd class as being legitimate power metal in the classic sense of the term too so I feel that this warrants the addition of the "Power metal" genre on top of the existing "Heavy metal" one.

Toxik's "World Circus"

Ben 5 years ago

This release has been added to the Hall of Judgement.

After the Burial's "Rareform" (both versions) should be in The Infinite

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) 5 years ago

Sounds good, thanks Ben!

Possibility of canceling stale judgement submissions?

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) 5 years ago

Thanks Ben! If there are any other judgements I'd like you to cancel, I'll let you know, but for now the only ones I had in mind were those Trivium submissions.

Judgement Submissions / Last Replied

Daniel in Orphaned Land's "Sahara" has enough death-doom for The Fallen at 23.05.2026 07:44 PM: https://metal.academy/hall/640For th...

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Shadowdoom9 (Andi) in Tyr's "A Night at the Nordic House" should be removed from The Infinite at 23.05.2026 03:25 AM: Although this Tyr live album has cov...

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) in Orphaned Land's "Sahara" has enough death-doom for The Fallen at 23.05.2026 03:15 AM: I disagree about Orphaned Land's deb...

Daniel in Tyr's "By the Light of the Northern Star" should be in The Infinite at 23.05.2026 02:26 AM: https://metal.academy/hall/638...

Daniel in Orphaned Land's "Ararat" should be in The Infinite at 23.05.2026 02:23 AM: https://metal.academy/hall/637...

Daniel in Orphaned Land's "Sahara" album is progressive enough for inclusion in The Infinite at 23.05.2026 02:01 AM: The debut album "Sahara" from Israel...

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) in Tyr's "By the Light of the Northern Star" should be in The Infinite at 17.05.2026 02:41 PM: Tyr's 2000s sound is generally a ble...

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) in Orphaned Land's "Ararat" should be in The Infinite at 17.05.2026 02:38 PM: Orphaned Land has had their blend of...

Shadowdoom9 (Andi) in Culprit's "Guilty as Charged" should be in The Guardians at 01.05.2026 11:56 PM: Thanks, Daniel. I say my view is tha...

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The Ocean's "Anthropocentric", "Pelagial", and "Phanerozoic I: Palaeozoic" (also Instrumental version) should be removed from The Fallen

Special Horde removal judgement submission week: Day 4 - Persefone's "Core"

Rainbow's "Rising"

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Celtic Frost's "Into The Pandemonium"

Lustre - The Ashes of Light

Warning (German band)'s 1982 self-titled debut is doom metal, not avant-garde metal

Queensryche's "Empire" isn't metal

Septicflesh's "The Eldest Cosmonaut" and "A Fallen Temple" and Fleshgod Apocalypse's "Agony" should be removed from The Guardians