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Lordi. Or am I missing something?

January 16, 2020 12:07 AM

I'm currently in the middle of the 2nd decade of Black Metal as I had to rely on youtube for too many of the 1st decade albums. Really enjoying it so far though, but wow it's a beast of a challenge to get through. Glad everyone else is enjoying it and actually working on them as well. This really puts into perspective for me how varied black metal is. I've never been the biggest fan (I chose the North mainly for folk metal) and some of it is the best music i've heard so far. Other albums are those that I will never go back to again, and wonder why they're called black and/or metal. 


This is a great way for me to kick off my year as I really want to get into more regularly listening and reviewing all sorts of music. Helps with the typing and writing skills when you don't do this too often. 

Shezma
January 12, 2020 05:21 PM

Just keep the tab open! I have, and I always keep coming back. Good Metal community here and always great to have a fellow North/Infinite member to join us in the ranks.

For me it was Nightwish. My mom is definitely stuck in the 80's but I put on some old Nightwish and that was our driving music. This was in high school and Dark Passion Play just released, but we went through Once as well. Mom didn't notice the singer change as much as I did, but Annette still did a good job and was glad to have something newer that we could listen to over holiday trips. 


Dimmu Borgir - Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia, my first black metal album I remember really listening to. After listening to the Cradle of Filth's Dusk.. And Her Embrace, really reminded me of this album and that I haven't heard it in years and wondered if it held up as well. It still holds up in 2020. This is Symphonic Black Metal, but it is still very different from Cof. I get a feeling of being in a temple/castle or some old building with a ritual compared to CoF's blizzard in a forest. Both amazingly well done in my opinion but this is what I'm listening to now. Oh nostalgia.


4/5

I always actually forget about listening to music on youtube, I could definitely try that for the albums I can't find on streaming services.  I don't like buying albums anymore, maybe one day when I actually have money and space to store them all where I could get to them easier but technology has made life so much better.

Congrats mate! Keep it up! Looking forward to what you got to say, even though i'm not a huge fan of basic death metal we probably agree on some things. 

January 05, 2020 07:24 AM

I think it's fine personally. I like the lists are just kinda thrown in there the way they are as an overall picture of the challenges and Metal Academy lists. I feel like the clan challenges aesthetically fits the broad spectrum of just what is a challenge from a top down view for anyone just jumping in to see the massive undertaking that a challenge is and how many different ways to go about it there are. Also since there are only 10 lists in the Metal Academy lists page so far it also seems fine. Maybe once there are more it can be seperated a bit the way you are describing it, but I feel as of right now it's unnecessary. 


I do have a suggestion for linking to the Clan Challenges from their appropriate clan homepage.

-Add Challenges: link1 link2 link3   in the About Clan section at the bottom

--- Or possibly have a separate box between the About Clan and Random Clan's Releases 

- Also can add the Spotify playlists you're creating as well included next to the challenge (Thanks again :) )



You have a Spotify follower in me, I see that you have playlists for The North but haven't posted here yet. I couldn't even find some albums in the 1st decade list so I stopped and went to the second decade, saw that you also were missing some in the playlists as well.  Would love to get a chance to listen to them albums, but some of them are difficult to find. Metal has always been difficult to find and streaming services help but Spotify is definitely lacking in the metal department. Already been a fun challenge for me either way. 


If there is any (legal) way to find those albums for relatively decent price, I would love to listen to everything.

As a member of The North, I am definitely up for the challenge though I have a few questions/concerns. 25 reviews per clan seems a bit excessive, I get the idea of giving people a goal and I'm going to do it but I feel maybe 15-20 albums would suffice. Also I noticed that all the challenges thus far for The North is pretty exclusive to Black Metal but we also include Folk/Viking metal and there's also other clans that seem to be missing some other genre's as well but I haven't delved that deep in other clans as I'm setting myself up for my personal clan challenge. Will there be more lists for them? I would gladly help make a list for a challenge.  

I definitely have this problem. I typically review or at least listen to an album and form my own opinion on the album before I go out and see what other people think of, however what your asking is whether personal enjoyment or objective quality/creativity make a difference in a review. For me it totally effects a review score, though not in my personal rankings in a year end list. A record that is typically in the mediocre range (1.5 - 3.5 out of 5 or 4 - 8 out of 10) are the worst offenders for me to get a rating that is more biased towards outside sources and/or the overall production and creativity of the album because these are the records that tend to be so in the middle of the road for me that are just 'meh' albums I'm not sure if I like them or not. If I go into an album that I straight up fall in love with and put on repeat I don't care how bad the production is or anything, same with I can't finish an album. 


There is definitely something to the production, creativity, technique that affect my scores but it typically really shows through in the overall enjoyment. 

November 28, 2019 09:45 AM

:fist:Good to see ya! Glad to have more Guardians in the midst

#10. Judas Priest - Firepower (2018)

#9. Scar Symmetry - The Singularity (Phase I: Neohumanity) (2014)

#8. Be'lakor - Of Breath and Bone (2012)

#7 Ihsahn - After (2010)

#6 Tribulation - Children of the Night (2015)

#5 Rivers of Nihil - Where Owls Know my Name (2018)

#4 Hellripper - Coagulating Darkness (2017)

#3 Helloween - Straight out of Hell (2013)

#2 Vektor - Outer Isolation (2011)

#1 Equilibrium - Rekreator (2010)

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Really quick list that I know I'm forgetting a bunch from the decade. Personally only agree with Rivers of Nihil and Judas Priest on the list. Firepower was great, but if I think more about it I may end up kicking it off the top 10, but probably still stay in top 25 for me. 

#1: Equilibrium - Path of Destiny (feat.  The Butcher Sisters) (2019) - Folk Melodic Death Metal band, their new album Renegades  is the most disappointing of the year for me. This song being the worst offender. They don't know what they're trying here, and in 3 minutes they go from death growls, to The Butcher Sisters who rap, to singing and back and forth giving the worst case of whiplash i've heard in a long time. NO!

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That's the only song I have at the moment, but man this is a good topic that I'm going to have to come back to. These are the songs that are ultimately forgettable and auto skip so I have to actually think on this but I know there are many. 

Oh man well Black Metal is a genre that I always keep coming back to but doesn't usually stick with me. I remember listening to Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir but not really getting into either too much. I enjoyed Nymphetaimine but you can't hardly count that as a black metal release. I went to the archives and found something though, Chthonic's Takasago Army. I need to listen to this again now, since it's been like 8 years since it released and my tastes have changed. The Black metal styling with the use of Chinese instrumentation and influence is awesome.


Folk Metal/Viking Metal my first real love. I've always loved music, and especially metal, but there was something about folk sounds that kept me going. Ensiferum, Eluveitie, Korpiklaani, Tyr, and essentially Equilibrium. It sounds epic like your in a Lord of the Rings novel or something.  Love going on an adventure.


I love other non-viking folk metal as well, but I don't know of any Viking metal that's not folk metal.



I remember being shown Queensryche and kinda explained Operation: Mindcrime but not really understanding but still loving how it sounded and that a concept album was super cool idea. The first album that really got me though was as I was getting into harder music in high school eventually got around to Between The Buried and Me Alaska. I was so blown away by this interesting sound. It was all over the place and loved it. 

I used to read a bunch of music/metal magazines (RIP) and they would used to rave about Dir En Grey especially after Uroboros. I could not do it. That album is terrible to me and took me until recently to like anything that could be considered avant-garde until I found Diablo Swing Orchestra Pandora's Pinata. It's freaking Polka Metal. It's so wierd, but I loved it for some reason and had to show all my metal friends and nobody could understand why it was so good.

Alcest Souvenirs d'un autre monde.  I don't know how I found this album but it captured me and I still have to go back to it once in a while if I'm just in that kind of mood. 

Heavy metal was just 'old metal' my parents, uncles, and whoever older folk had playing. Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Scorpions and the like. It was always kinda around, I couldn't even try to tell you the first album I really listened to. Maybe Iron Maiden's The Number Of The Beast


Neoclassical Metal: Um... can't say I've really listened too much of this. I've listened to some of Yngwie Malmsteen but um, nothing here keeps my interest. Maybe i'll find something more here. 


Power metal: Oh man, I'm going with Kamelot Black Halo. I heard this in high school and was hooked. Brought me down the path of Iced Earth, Helloween, Hammerfall, and so many others. 


Symphonic Metal: Same with Xephyr honestly, The Poet and the Pendelum, was the first symphonic album I personally owned. However, I knew of the band and Tarja before due to their Phantom Of The Opera (cover?) they did as it went around the internet, limewire, back in the day and I fell in love. I've always been a kinda sucker for good musicals and when you add loud guitars and banging drum work over that I needed more. Still remember The Poet and the Album was the first metal album I had that my mom was like ooh that's pretty you should bring that in the car on trips. Good times. 

November 27, 2019 05:17 PM

Fellow Infinite clan member! Nice to meet you, definitely be seeing you around there. 

Reverence is a complete change in direction for them. I personally am not a fan, but it does lean more towards alt-metal instead of metalcore. Check out Boneyard off their 2007 album Horizons. 

Equilibrium - Rekreator (Also recommended this in The North for Folk metal) for symphonic metal. If you like your Symphonic Metal with a flair for folk this is best, or their album Sagas but i think it's less symphonic.


Other lesser loved Symphonic Metal bands to check out include:

Syrenia

Rhapsody (aka Rhapsody of Fire)

Amberian Dawn

Delain (Within Temptations' Martijn Westerholt band after he left)

Lovebites (Best Japanese band power metal band but try all different subgenres and do it all well)

    I do have a soft heart for women vocalists.


Agalloch's The Mantle - Folk Black Metal, needs to be heard for The North members.

Ensiferum - Ensiferum - When I think of folk/viking metal I think of this

Eluveitie - Celtic Metal. Ategnatos may very well be my favorite folk metal if not metal album of 2019.

Equillibrium (pre-2014) - Rekreator is quite possibly my favorite metal album of all time. (Sagas is a close second, Rekreator just grabs me more personally) Symphonic Folk Metal at the absolute best.  New album is horrific, don't waste your time with it. 


The Infinite - the fun out there clan. Progressive is great, but there is also Avant-Garde and Post-Metal here so...

Diablo Swing Quartet - it's legit Polka Metal, but man is it fun avant-garde metal

Sigh - Originally were more straight Black metal (fun fact originally signed to Euronymous of Mayhem's label and released first album on that label shortly after his death) but have since toned that down and have even added a bit of Japanese Folk metal. Still odd fun avant-garde metal too.

Alcest - The legends of Post-Metal.  Recently released Spiritual Instinct, only listened to it once but it still has their sound and will be going back to it. 

Les Discrets - same as Alcest in the post-metal scene, also french so there are some definitely similar influences if you like one you should like the other as well.


For progressive metal you can't go wrong with Opeth. Watershed (2008) and before are definitely the more metal of their discographies, but afterwards it still can be good just tame it down quite a bit and more just prog rock.


Also if you're not as much of a death metal and more heavy metal Queensryche and Operation Mindcrime is essential Progressive Metal from the 80's.

Kalmah

Equilibrium


Otherwise Shadow's list is perfect. I would be a Horde member for Melodic Death alone alas not a fan of much else in there so got nothing else to recommend. 

Not a Revolutionist but I like my fair share so I second The Dillinger Escape Plan and August Burns Red.

May I add Parkway Drive, Every Time I Die, and Norma Jean? 

November 25, 2019 05:28 AM

I completely understand, and agree that though some of my favorite music is Melodic Death I don't even scratch the surface of most that would be included in The Horde. I personally am not a fan of Grindcore, but I see the appeal just not for me. I do think I'm personally more involved in my other 3 clans anyway. I'm enjoying the site so far and like doing what I can. 

Can we get Jinjer and Ashbringer to the Infinite? Thanks!
November 25, 2019 05:00 AM

Fellow Infinite and Fallen represent! Looking forward to seeing you around!

November 25, 2019 04:59 AM

Fellow Guardian here! Love me some good old school power/heffy metal from time to time and even symphonic has a place in my heart. 


Daniel, I'm the opposite of you with The North. I love Folk/Viking metal but not a fan of black metal too much but slowly growing into it. 


The clan system is personally refreshing, it's a cheap way to get rid of bots at the same time makes sense when looking at the broad picture of what a clan can do for a respectful release. I almost feel like this could be a really good scientific study  to see how music genres are better represented by those that spend more time with it then others who don't. It's a cool research project to me haha. I too want to join a 4th clan at some point (The Horde i'm looking at you) but for now I really like this concept and see where it goes. Hopefully we'll all see each other around on here. :)

November 23, 2019 07:40 PM
I'm glad I read this post! I know this is an old thread, but I still feel like this is an annoying issue just starting out. Signing up I was confused as why it seemed like so many genre's were excluded in the clan listing. As a big fan of Prog death/Melo death I wasn't sure which to join. Death metal is so broad that a majority of it I'm not a fan of and chose not to join that clan and opted elsewhere but now as i'm learning more how this works I've found that my favorite albums or styles  won't be counted the same as if I was involved in the clan. Unsure of any suggestions besides maybe giving a bit more explanation of the fact you use RYM genres for clans. Keep up the good work though!

Looking forward to this!