Judgement Submissions

The idea behind the Hall of Judgement is to give site members the opportunity to vote on which genre(s) and/or clan(s) a particular release should belong to. If you feel that a release shouldn't be where it currently is, create a new thread here in the Judgement Submissions section. Make sure you're clear about what you think should happen, and provide brief summary as to why. It's your task to convince other site members that your opinion is the correct one.

Once you've stated your case, an admin will either enter the release into the Hall of Judgement or ask for clearer / more information.

When Herbie Langhans stepped in as Firewind's new vocalist starting with their 2020 self-titled album, the band brought back the earlier classic heavy metal part of their sound from the Stephen Fredrick era, side-by-side with their usual power metal. Many tracks in this album are more mid-tempo and have more classic anthemic-sounding insturmentation, as opposed to the fast melodic style of power metal. So I'd like to send Firewind's 2020 self-titled album to the Hall to be added to heavy metal while staying in power metal.

The prog/psych elements in Cave In's new album spread into many songs to make a more progressive alt-metal offering. This is also noted in the lengthy structures and complexity within the music. So I'd like to submit Cave In's "Heavy Pendulum" to be added to The Infinite while staying in The Gateway.

Thanks, Daniel.

Thanks again, Daniel!

I've just given this release some listening and a review to continue exploring some progressive-ish melodic black/death after my experience with Shylmagoghnar's Emergence, and while it is a blackened death metal album, there's still enough melody for this still to still be melodic black metal. If this was added to The Horde and I was in that clan, I would vote in the melodic death metal subgenre. I also hear a lot of progressiveness in this offering as well, at times sounding like a blend of the mid-2000s eras of Enslaved, Leprous, and Opeth, so I would definitely vote YES for the entry of adding this album to The Infinite.

Listening to this again for the purpose of this hall.  Some of these tracks have some major metal energy, pre-NWOBHM technique aside, and it completely appeals to my metal side.  Considering how many different types of metal we get, I feel that it would be unfair to call this just "hard rock."  Apologies, but I'll be voting no for this one.

https://metal.academy/hall/589

https://metal.academy/hall/590

https://metal.academy/hall/588

I've passed "Odyssey (un)Dead" uncontested & have created this Hall of Judgement entry for "In Waking: Divinity":

https://metal.academy/hall/587

Thanks Daniel.

Thanks Daniel.

https://metal.academy/hall/586

https://metal.academy/hall/585

https://metal.academy/hall/584

https://metal.academy/hall/583

https://metal.academy/hall/582

Thanks Daniel.

https://metal.academy/hall/580

https://metal.academy/hall/581

https://metal.academy/hall/577

https://metal.academy/hall/578

https://metal.academy/hall/579

https://metal.academy/hall/576

https://metal.academy/hall/575

Thanks, Daniel.

I've passed these two nominations uncontested Andi.

I've passed these two nominations uncontested Andi.

I've passed this nomination uncontested Andi.

I've passed this nomination uncontested Andi.

I'm voting YES for this entry too, Daniel. Same thoughts on the progressiveness of this album as in Sorrow.

I've just revisited this EP and I can definitely hear those lush arrangements and guitar arpeggios, with tracks "Grevinnens Bønn" and "Silently I Surrender" sounding quite expansive. With enough progressiveness to qualify, I'll vote YES for this entry, Daniel.

https://metal.academy/hall/571

https://metal.academy/hall/570

I've passed this nomination uncontested Andi.

Thanks, Daniel. Could you please also post or pass this nomination: https://metal.academy/forum/28/thread/2488

I've passed this nomination uncontested.

I agree about the unusual spacey psychedelics this album has and will vote YES for this Hall entry, Daniel. But I also hear a lot of progressiveness in the complexity and structure enough to make it qualify as progressive metal. So I'd like to submit an additional entry to have Anomalous Abstractigate Infinitessimus added to The Infinite as progressive metal while staying in The Horde and dissonant death metal.

https://metal.academy/hall/569

This nomination has been passed uncontested.

https://metal.academy/hall/568

I decided to pass "Aquarela" uncontested.

https://metal.academy/hall/567

Oranssi Pazuzu's sixth full-length isn't as psychedelic as we've heard from them in the past. I labelled their last two albums as blackened post-metal but I don't think this one fits as nicely under post-metal. In fact, there's really very little metal to be found in the instrumentation which is drawn from a collection of wildly disparate influences including noise rock, trip hop, progressive electronic & dark ambient. The vocals are 100% black metal though & I feel that this ties the album to The North along with the dark themes so I'd like to see "Muuntautuja" being added to that clan under the Black Metal genre along with its current position in The Infinite.

https://metal.academy/hall/565

Unlike Chat Pile's debut album, "Cool World" sees the band offering just as much (if not more) alternative metal than sludge metal with influences like Helmet, Primus & Korn showing up quite regularly across the tracklisting. For that reason, I'd like to see the album added to The Gateway on top of its existing position in The Fallen.

https://metal.academy/hall/564

Thanks, Daniel. Glad you agree.

I've passed this nomination uncontested Andi.

Like most of Yngwie's back catalogue, his 1994 seventh full-length only includes a few tracks where the classical influences are strong enough for a neoclassical metal tag. For that reason, I'd like to see it removed from the Neoclassic Metal genre while remaining solely under Heavy Metal.

https://metal.academy/hall/562

https://metal.academy/hall/561

https://metal.academy/hall/560

Hhhmm… it would seem that I made a mistake by allowing members of The Infinite to vote on this poll. I’ve just fixed it & reset the count. Sorry Andi.

For the record, the progressive metal component is the most prominent here in my opinion with the groove metal & thrash metal sounds not being consistent enough to justify a position in The Pit in isolation. However, when you consider the sum of the two you find that they easily justify inclusion in the clan. I selected groove metal simply because it was the more prominent of the two. Other than the three songs I mentioned in my review, the thrash elements only amount to a riff here or there which isn't enough to see me reaching for thrash-based primary tags on any other tracks.

Sepultura's fifteenth album is much more progressive than anything I've heard from them before, so much so that I'd suggest that Progressive Metal is the most prominent genre to appear in a track-by-track genre-tagging exercise. For that reason, I'd like to see 'Quadra' added to The Infinite under the Progressive Metal genre.

https://metal.academy/hall/558

I have to admit, I was also sitting on the fence between whether or not I would consider this album and the 1994 debut black metal as a primary genre. While there are songs with a prominent black metal sound, whether in sections or as a whole, the other main genres have more of the spotlight. But ultimately, after some further listening, I've come to the conclusion that there is enough black metal to qualify. My opinion on the gothic metal side of the sound still stands though in the more mellow melancholic moments. So I'd consider both albums progressive/gothic/black metal, thereby voting YES for the entries adding them to The North and NO for the entries removing them from The Fallen.

Novembre's 'Dreams d'azur' doesn't show any sign of the gothic influence that's required for it to qualify as progressive gothic metal with the black metal component being far stronger. I'd like to see it removed from The Fallen while maintaining its position in The Infinite.

https://metal.academy/hall/556

Novembre's debut album isn't progressive doom/death. There's no sign of doom or death metal but there is a clear black metal component that's strong enough for it to qualify as progressive black metal in my opinion so I'd like it added to The North under the Atmospheric Black Metal subgenre.

https://metal.academy/hall/554