Judgement Submissions

The idea behind the Hall of Judgement is to give site members the opportunity to vote on which genre(s) and/or clan(s) a particular release should belong to. If you feel that a release shouldn't be where it currently is, create a new thread here in the Judgement Submissions section. Make sure you're clear about what you think should happen, and provide brief summary as to why. It's your task to convince other site members that your opinion is the correct one.

Once you've stated your case, an admin will either enter the release into the Hall of Judgement or ask for clearer / more information.

Cream Abdul Babar is an experimental noisecore band, while Teen Cthulthu combines metalcore with symphonic black metal. They don't have anything related to heavy/power metal-based symphonic metal, and therefore this release doesn't belong in The Guardians. So I'd like to send the 2003 "Cream Abdul Babar / Teen Cthulhu" split to the Hall to be removed from The Guardians while maintaining its position in The North and The Revolution.

These two albums by Iron Fire have some classic heavy metal as part of their sound, side-by-side with their usual power metal. Many tracks here are more mid-tempo and have more classic anthemic-sounding insturmentation, as opposed to the fast melodic style of power metal. So I'd like to send Iron Fire's "Blade of Triumph" and "To the Grave" to the Hall to be added to heavy metal while staying in power metal.

3 Inches of Blood have always had their heavy/power metal sound, and this album is no exception. There's enough fast melodic guitarwork, anthemic hooks, and fantasy-ish lyrics in many tracks to justify adding the album to power metal. So I'd like to submit 3 Inches of Blood's "Here Waits Thy Doom" to the Hall to be added to power metal while maintaining its position in heavy metal.

The first 3 Conception albums I believe have more of a progressive power metal sound, as opposed to the strictly melodic progressive metal sound of subsequent albums. There's enough fast melodic guitarwork, anthemic hooks, and fantasy-ish lyrics in many tracks to justify adding the album to power metal. So I'd like to submit Conception's "The Last Sunset", "Parallel Minds", and "In Your Multitude" to the Hall to be added to The Guardians and power metal while staying in The Infinite and progressive metal.

Although The Dark Element has often bordered on power metal, their second album Songs the Night Sings has more of a full-on symphonic metal sound. The fast melodic guitarwork, anthemic hooks, and fantasy-ish lyrics aren't as much as in their debut. The two Dark Element albums basically relive the "symphonic power metal to symphonic metal" transition of vocalist Anette Olzon's albums with Nightwish. So I'd like to submit The Dark Element's "Songs the Night Sings" to the Hall to be removed from power metal while maintaining its position in symphonic metal.

Lord of the Lost started having a full-on symphonic metal direction in their latest album, but they still have their usual gothic/industrial metal. The dark melodic guitarwork and electronics of those two genres still aren't out of the picture. So I'd like to send Lord of the Lost's "Opvs Noir Vol. 1" to the Hall with two submissions to be:

1. Added to The Fallen and gothic metal.

2. Added to The Sphere and industrial metal.

All while staying in The Guardians and symphonic metal.

Ghostlights is one of Avantasia's more symphonic works, but it still has the project's usual power metal sound. There's enough fast melodic guitarwork, anthemic hooks, and fantasy-ish lyrics in many tracks to justify adding the album to power metal. So I'd like to submit Avantasia's "Ghostlights" to the Hall to be added to power metal while maintaining its position in symphonic metal.

As much as As Blood Runs Black's debut can be considered deathcore, there's also a lot of melodeath to remind some of At the Gates and The Black Dahlia Murder. This can be heard in the fast guitarwork, melodic soloing, and blast beats, all common in the subgenre. So I'd like to submit As Blood Runs Black's "Allegiance" to the Hall to be added to The Horde as melodic death metal while keeping its existing position in The Revolution and deathcore.

Similarly with Killwhitneydead's 2002 debut release, I find lots of prominent doses of the brutal relentless intensity of deathgrind in their 2004 album. That can be heard in the caustic guitar (even going far into melodeath leads but I hesitate in bringing that genre into this), deathly monstrous riffing, occasional pummeling blast-beats, and the grindcore aspect of really short songs. So I'd like to submit Killwhitneydead's "Never Good Enough for You" to the Hall to be added to The Horde as grindcore while keeping its existing position in The Revolution and deathcore.

Hope for the Dying's 2013 album Aletheia has the progressive metalcore sound that would continue on in Legacy, but there's more of the symphonic/neo-classical approach they've had since Dissimulation. Many of the songs in Aletheia have symphonic grandeur and classic heavy metal-based instrumentation. With that I'd like to send Hope for the Dying's "Aletheia" to the Hall to be added to The Guardians as symphonic metal, while maintaining its position in The Infinite and The Revolution.

Vildhjarta is known as the inventors of thall, and we've established that if thall was added to this site (not happening), it would be more of an Infinite subgenre, specifically djent. I wouldn't consider Vildhjarta a metalcore band, and even then, only a couple songs in this album have the crushing riffs and unclean vocals of metalcore. With that, I'd like to submit Vildhjarta's "+ Där skogen sjunger under evighetens granar +" to the Hall to be removed from The Revolution while maintaining its position in The Infinite and djent.

These two Humanity's Last Breath albums are considered deathcore, but I don't think that's enough to describe them. They're both considered thall which is a djent subgenre, and it's quite clear from the complex rhythms and downtuned riffs of djent brutalized. So I'd like to submit Humanity's Last Breath's "Abyssal" and "Valde" to the Hall to be added to The Infinite as djent while staying in The Revolution and deathcore.

The 2003 debut by Masterplan has some classic heavy metal as part of their sound, side-by-side with their usual power metal. Many tracks here are more mid-tempo and have more classic anthemic-sounding insturmentation, as opposed to the fast melodic style of power metal. So I'd like to send Masterplan's 2003 self-titled debut to the Hall to be added to heavy metal while staying in power metal.

When Herbie Langhans stepped in as Firewind's new vocalist starting with their 2020 self-titled album, the band brought back the earlier classic heavy metal part of their sound from the Stephen Fredrick era, side-by-side with their usual power metal. Many tracks in this album are more mid-tempo and have more classic anthemic-sounding insturmentation, as opposed to the fast melodic style of power metal. So I'd like to send Firewind's 2020 self-titled album to the Hall to be added to heavy metal while staying in power metal.

The prog/psych elements in Cave In's new album spread into many songs to make a more progressive alt-metal offering. This is also noted in the lengthy structures and complexity within the music. So I'd like to submit Cave In's "Heavy Pendulum" to be added to The Infinite while staying in The Gateway.

Thanks, Daniel.

Thanks again, Daniel!

I've just given this release some listening and a review to continue exploring some progressive-ish melodic black/death after my experience with Shylmagoghnar's Emergence, and while it is a blackened death metal album, there's still enough melody for this still to still be melodic black metal. If this was added to The Horde and I was in that clan, I would vote in the melodic death metal subgenre. I also hear a lot of progressiveness in this offering as well, at times sounding like a blend of the mid-2000s eras of Enslaved, Leprous, and Opeth, so I would definitely vote YES for the entry of adding this album to The Infinite.

Listening to this again for the purpose of this hall.  Some of these tracks have some major metal energy, pre-NWOBHM technique aside, and it completely appeals to my metal side.  Considering how many different types of metal we get, I feel that it would be unfair to call this just "hard rock."  Apologies, but I'll be voting no for this one.

https://metal.academy/hall/589

https://metal.academy/hall/590

https://metal.academy/hall/588

I've passed "Odyssey (un)Dead" uncontested & have created this Hall of Judgement entry for "In Waking: Divinity":

https://metal.academy/hall/587

Thanks Daniel.

Thanks Daniel.

https://metal.academy/hall/586

https://metal.academy/hall/585

https://metal.academy/hall/584

https://metal.academy/hall/583

https://metal.academy/hall/582

Thanks Daniel.

https://metal.academy/hall/580

https://metal.academy/hall/581

https://metal.academy/hall/577

https://metal.academy/hall/578

https://metal.academy/hall/579

https://metal.academy/hall/576

https://metal.academy/hall/575

Thanks, Daniel.

I've passed these two nominations uncontested Andi.

I've passed these two nominations uncontested Andi.

I've passed this nomination uncontested Andi.

I've passed this nomination uncontested Andi.

I'm voting YES for this entry too, Daniel. Same thoughts on the progressiveness of this album as in Sorrow.

I've just revisited this EP and I can definitely hear those lush arrangements and guitar arpeggios, with tracks "Grevinnens Bønn" and "Silently I Surrender" sounding quite expansive. With enough progressiveness to qualify, I'll vote YES for this entry, Daniel.

https://metal.academy/hall/571

https://metal.academy/hall/570

I've passed this nomination uncontested Andi.

Thanks, Daniel. Could you please also post or pass this nomination: https://metal.academy/forum/28/thread/2488

I've passed this nomination uncontested.

I agree about the unusual spacey psychedelics this album has and will vote YES for this Hall entry, Daniel. But I also hear a lot of progressiveness in the complexity and structure enough to make it qualify as progressive metal. So I'd like to submit an additional entry to have Anomalous Abstractigate Infinitessimus added to The Infinite as progressive metal while staying in The Horde and dissonant death metal.

https://metal.academy/hall/569

This nomination has been passed uncontested.