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Ben

The idea behind the Hall of Judgement is to give site members the opportunity to vote on which genre(s) and/or clan(s) a particular release should belong to. If you feel that a release shouldn't be where it currently is, create a new thread here in the Judgement Submissions section. Make sure you're clear about what you think should happen, and provide brief summary as to why. It's your task to convince other site members that your opinion is the correct one.

Once you've stated your case, an admin will either enter the release into the Hall of Judgement or ask for clearer / more information.

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Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

Just calling this Shylmagoghnar album melodic black metal isn't enough to justify the deathly yet melodic stylings of melodeath. The tempos, riffs, bass, and vocal variation are in heavy deathly structures in a similar vein to Dark Tranquillity and In Vein. So I'd like to submit Shylmagoghnar's "Emergence" to the Hall to be added to The Horde and melodic death metal, while staying in The Horde and melodic death metal. And I'd like to encourage North members to vote in the atmospheric black metal subgenre.

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Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

The second album by these Russian industrial metallers showcases an industrial/groove metal style that can practically revive the mid-90s Fear Factory sound. Sure there are some deathly riffing and beats, but the heaviness is mostly about the djent-ish groove. So I'd like to submit Conflиct's "Transform Into a Human" to the Hall to be removed from The Horde while maintaining its position in The Pit and The Horde.

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Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

As much as Sonic Violence maintained their earlier heavy bleakness in Transfixion, I would not consider this metal. The music is greatly reliant on bass and synths with a complete absence of guitars. I mean, there are some bands that can still be metal without guitars like PainKiller and Bell Witch, but it's all about how the rest of the instrumentation is utilized. So I'd like to submit Sonic Violence's "Transfixion" to the Hall to be removed from The Sphere and labelled non-metal.

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Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

Although The Unspoken King was Cryptopsy's one-off misstep into deathcore, I can still hear the earlier brutal tech-death in the majority of the album. The riffing, complexity, and some of the vocals sound closer to technical death metal. So I'd like to submit Cryptopsy's "The Unspoken King" to the Hall to be added to The Horde and technical death metal, while staying in The Revolution and deathcore.

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Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

Just calling this Becoming the Archetype album deathcore isn't enough to justify its brutal sound. The riffing, vocals, and some of the occasional breakdowns all sound closer to standard death metal, with not as much melodeath as their surrounding albums. So I'd like to submit Becoming the Archetype's "I Am" to the Hall to be added to The Horde and death metal, while staying in The Revolution and deathcore.

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Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

OK, I know I nominated this epic masterpiece as the May 2025 Revolution feature release, but as I listen to it more, I can hear it coming out as more of a progressive melodeath/metalcore kind of style. The riffing, vocals, and some of the occasional breakdowns all sound closer to standard/melodic death metal, and the structures are quite complex and progressive in many of the tracks, short and long. With that I'd like to send Becoming the Archetype's "Terminate Damnation" to the Hall with two entries for the album to be added to...

1. The Horde as melodic death metal.

2. The Infinite as progressive metal.

All while maintaining its position in The Revolution.

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Daniel

I'm voting YES for this entry too, Daniel. Same thoughts on the progressiveness of this album as in Sorrow.

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Daniel

I've just revisited this EP and I can definitely hear those lush arrangements and guitar arpeggios, with tracks "Grevinnens Bønn" and "Silently I Surrender" sounding quite expansive. With enough progressiveness to qualify, I'll vote YES for this entry, Daniel.

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Daniel


I agree about the unusual spacey psychedelics this album has and will vote YES for this Hall entry, Daniel. But I also hear a lot of progressiveness in the complexity and structure enough to make it qualify as progressive metal. So I'd like to submit an additional entry to have Anomalous Abstractigate Infinitessimus added to The Infinite as progressive metal while staying in The Horde and dissonant death metal.

Quoted Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

https://metal.academy/hall/569

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Daniel

Oranssi Pazuzu's sixth full-length isn't as psychedelic as we've heard from them in the past. I labelled their last two albums as blackened post-metal but I don't think this one fits as nicely under post-metal. In fact, there's really very little metal to be found in the instrumentation which is drawn from a collection of wildly disparate influences including noise rock, trip hop, progressive electronic & dark ambient. The vocals are 100% black metal though & I feel that this ties the album to The North along with the dark themes so I'd like to see "Muuntautuja" being added to that clan under the Black Metal genre along with its current position in The Infinite.

https://metal.academy/hall/565

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Daniel

Unlike Chat Pile's debut album, "Cool World" sees the band offering just as much (if not more) alternative metal than sludge metal with influences like Helmet, Primus & Korn showing up quite regularly across the tracklisting. For that reason, I'd like to see the album added to The Gateway on top of its existing position in The Fallen.

https://metal.academy/hall/564

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Daniel

Like most of Yngwie's back catalogue, his 1994 seventh full-length only includes a few tracks where the classical influences are strong enough for a neoclassical metal tag. For that reason, I'd like to see it removed from the Neoclassic Metal genre while remaining solely under Heavy Metal.

https://metal.academy/hall/562

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Daniel

Hhhmm… it would seem that I made a mistake by allowing members of The Infinite to vote on this poll. I’ve just fixed it & reset the count. Sorry Andi.

For the record, the progressive metal component is the most prominent here in my opinion with the groove metal & thrash metal sounds not being consistent enough to justify a position in The Pit in isolation. However, when you consider the sum of the two you find that they easily justify inclusion in the clan. I selected groove metal simply because it was the more prominent of the two. Other than the three songs I mentioned in my review, the thrash elements only amount to a riff here or there which isn't enough to see me reaching for thrash-based primary tags on any other tracks.

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Daniel

Sepultura's fifteenth album is much more progressive than anything I've heard from them before, so much so that I'd suggest that Progressive Metal is the most prominent genre to appear in a track-by-track genre-tagging exercise. For that reason, I'd like to see 'Quadra' added to The Infinite under the Progressive Metal genre.

https://metal.academy/hall/558

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Daniel

I have to admit, I was also sitting on the fence between whether or not I would consider this album and the 1994 debut black metal as a primary genre. While there are songs with a prominent black metal sound, whether in sections or as a whole, the other main genres have more of the spotlight. But ultimately, after some further listening, I've come to the conclusion that there is enough black metal to qualify. My opinion on the gothic metal side of the sound still stands though in the more mellow melancholic moments. So I'd consider both albums progressive/gothic/black metal, thereby voting YES for the entries adding them to The North and NO for the entries removing them from The Fallen.

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Daniel

Novembre's 'Dreams d'azur' doesn't show any sign of the gothic influence that's required for it to qualify as progressive gothic metal with the black metal component being far stronger. I'd like to see it removed from The Fallen while maintaining its position in The Infinite.

https://metal.academy/hall/556

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Daniel

Novembre's debut album isn't progressive doom/death. There's no sign of doom or death metal but there is a clear black metal component that's strong enough for it to qualify as progressive black metal in my opinion so I'd like it added to The North under the Atmospheric Black Metal subgenre.

https://metal.academy/hall/554

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Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

I don't hear much of a gothic component to be honest so it's gonna be a NO from me. It's predominantly a progressive metal release & I was really, really close to nominating it for inclusion in The North under black metal too because that's clearly the base sound they've used to expand on.

https://metal.academy/hall/553

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Daniel

Also since this album has already been added to The Infinite, could you please remove this Hall entry that I submitted earlier: https://metal.academy/hall/502 Thanks, Daniel.

Quoted Shadowdoom9 (Andi)

I've deleted it as requested.

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Daniel

Despite Bathory's disappointing seventh full-length being clearly centred around thrash metal from an instrumental point of view, the presence of Quorthon's trademark black metal vocals always ensures that things don't drift completely out of The North & I think a blackened thrash tag is far more appropriate. I don't know about you but I've always felt that those sort of releases should receive a dual tag as those members of The Pit that aren't down with black metal could struggle with the extremity here. Therefore, I'd like to see "Requiem" being added to The North on top of its existing position in The Pit.

https://metal.academy/hall/548


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Sonny

Thanks Daniel. The RYM genre voting pixies have fucked up again on this one.

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