Tymell's Forum Replies

I'm super pleased with the Kreator "SANTA IS REAL" Xmas jumper my girlfriend got me 

Request to add Lamassu (Australia) and Facade (Netherlands).

I'm not sure if this should be here or elsewhere, but I'd also like to request that Elder's Reflections of a Floating World (2017) be added. I know on RYM it doesn't have a metal primary, but I'd argue this is a mistake and that it easily has enough stoner/progressive metal content to qualify.

Request to add Man.Machine.Industry (Sweden), which may also fit into The Sphere as well.

Request to add some albums for existing bands:

Brothers of Metal - Emblas Saga (2019)
Human Fortress - Reign of Gold (2019)
Epica - The Classical Conspiracy (2009)

Request to add Carnal Garden (Greece).

As far as cover versions go, I can certainly see where Ben is coming from but I prefer to take them on a case by case basis. In general, I think covers are only effective when a) they're given a fresh & unique feel & b) they sound like they belong alongside the originals that surround it. If you take a look at a couple of well-known Judas Priest cover versions as a point of reference, Slayer's cover of "Dissident Aggressor" is a great example of a cover version done well. If you didn't know it was a cover version you'd never know because it fits so nicely into the "South Of Heaven" tracklisting. But then we have Death's version of "Painkiller" which was a disappointing inclusion on "The Sound Of Perseverance". Firstly, it was pretty much a faithful rendition of the original but wasn't anywhere near as effective & secondly, it doesn't sound like the rest of the album. In fact, Chuck actually went with a completely different approach to his vocal delivery for that song & it simply isn't half as appealing. Judas Priest themselves were masters of the cover version with songs like "Diamonds & Rust" & "Better By You, Better Than Me" not only being amongst the highlights of their respective albums but also sounding a) 100% like Judas Priest & b) nothing like the originals.

Yeah, much as I love Sound of Perseverance, I agree that the Painkiller cover is definitely the weak link there. It does nothing to capture the power of the original, but doesn't make the song its own either.

Anywho, on the original topic, one that leaps to mind for me is Annihilator's "Suicide Society":

Annihilator are already the very definition of hit and miss, with plenty of crap songs among the good ones, but this one really stood out when I first heard it as just hilariously bad. I almost enjoy it, in the same way I enjoy watching The Room, just for how ludicrously crap it is. The lyrics especially are a treat:

"Give me everything I want
Never satisfied
Extreme religion
Hell bent on genocide

Pesticide, open wide
Poisoning the well
Radiation, medication
We're all just going to hell"

It's like Jeff wanted to write an angry song but just couldn't decide on a topic, so decided to just throw all the Bad Things he could think of into one song.

Some fun lists here. Loving Catch 33 on yours, shadowdoom!

My own is always changing whenever I feel something needs to be boosted higher or the like, but at the moment:

25.) Strapping Young Lad - City
24.) Metallica - ...And Justice For All
23.) Morbid Saint - Spectrum of Death
22.) King Diamond - The Puppet Master
21.) Rhapsody - Power of the Dragonflame
20.) Candlemass - Nightfall
19.) Gamma Ray - Land of the Free
18.) Rainbow - Rising
17.) Torture - Storm Alert
16.) Rhapsody - Rain of a Thousand Flames
15.) Overkill - Killbox 13
14.) Meshuggah - Catch Thirtythree
13.) Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor
12.) Iced Earth - Burnt Offerings
11.) Jerry Cantrell - Degradation Trip
10.) Celtic Frost - Monotheist
9.) Mercenary - 11 Dreams
8.) Dark Empire - Humanity Dethroned
7.) W.A.S.P. - The Crimson Idol
6.) Exodus - Tempo of the Damned
5.) Draconian - Arcane Rain Fell
4.) Dio - Holy Diver
3.) Metallica - Ride the Lightning
2.) Machine Head - The Blackening
1.) Metallica - Master of Puppets

My first real taste of metal period was hearing Metallica's For Whom the Bell Tolls on my dad's "Greatest Air Guitar" album. I fell in love with the apocalyptic vibe I got from it and the vivid imagery it conjured in my head.

I had a birthday not long after, and my grandmother of all people got me the Master of Puppets album (she'd been told I wanted it by my parents, but I still love that my first metal album came from my granny). I listened to that, and other Metallica albums, over and over again.

Maybe more under-known than underrated, but Japan's Outrage. Their first two albums in particular, Black Clouds and Blind to Reality.

A lot of thrash bands get compared with early Metallica, and certainly those influences are widespread, but those are some of the only albums I've listened to and actually felt they captured that same sense of song-craft and making something both thrashy and catchy at the same time.

I finished transferring my scores from RYM, the following are bands I couldn't find for The Pit:

Acid Reign
Amok (UK)
Atrophy (USA)
Avenger of Blood 
Bonded by Blood 
Cavalera Conspiracy 
Dekapitator 
Destroy Destroy Destroy 
Demonspeed 
Dublin Death Patrol 
Exeloume 
Elimination (UK)
Fastkill 
Guillotine (swe)
Fueled by Fire 
Hatriot 
Harlott (australia)
Hatchet 
Hellcannon 
Hexen 
Hospital of Death 
Hyades 
Lazarus A.D. 
Legion of the Damned 
Damageplan 
Destructor (also relevant for The Guardians) 
Enemynside 
Essence (den)
Fatal Embrace 
Inquisitor (neth) (also relevant for The Horde) 
Mantic Ritual 
Mutant (UK)
Outrage (jap)
Pro-Pain 
Pissing Razors 
Speed Kill Hate 
SSS (UK)
Suicidal Angels 
Thrashfire 
Torture (USA)
Warpath (UK)
Savage Messiah 
Shatter Messiah (also relevant for The Guardians?) 
Malkavian (fra)
Metal Allegiance (also relevant for The Guardians) 
Perzonal War (also relevant for The Guardians) 
Sanctity (USA)
Susperia 
Witches Hammer 
Zimmers Hole 
Byzantine (also relevant for The Revolution?) 

Apologies if any don't meet the criteria, hopefully I'm not wasting anyone's time!

I finished transferring my scores from RYM, the following are bands I couldn't find for The Infinite:

Biomechanical (also relevant for The Pit)
Warrel Dane 
Giant Squid (also relevant for The Fallen?) 
Le Grand Guignol (also relevant for The Guardians?) 
Haunted Shores 
Jeff Loomis 
Manticora (also relevant for The Guardians) 
Virus 
Mother of Millions 
Pathosray 
Pyramaze (also relevant for The Guardians) 
Witherscape 

Apologies if any don't meet the criteria, hopefully I'm not wasting anyone's time!

Request to add Times of Grace.

I finished transferring my scores from RYM, the following are bands I couldn't find for The Guardians:

At Vance
Benedictum 
Beyond Fear 
Black Magic (nor) 
Brothers of Metal 
Cage 
Coffeinne 
Crucified Barbara 
Cryonic Temple 
Herman Frank 
Helion Prime 
Mob Rules 
Beyond the Black 
Crimfall (also relevant for The North) 
Dark Sarah 
Eidolon 
Holy Knights 
Imagika (also relevant for The Pit) 
In Vain (spain) 
Jorn Lande & Trond Holter 
Kiuas 
Machine Men 
Mystic Prophecy 
Primal Fear 
Novareign 
Paragon 
Wolf (swe) 
Revamp 
Walpyrgus 
Liv Sin 
Sex Machineguns 
Probot 
Purgatory 
Ravage 
Rebellion 
Snowy Shaw 
A Sound of Thunder 
Toxikull 
Van Canto 
Venom Inc. 
Veonity 
Violet Sun 
Vision Divine 
Warmachine (can)
White Skull 

Apologies if any don't meet the criteria, hopefully I'm not wasting anyone's time!

I finished transferring my scores from RYM, the following are bands I couldn't find for The North:

Folkearth
Hulkoff
Bal-Sagoth
Black Anvil
Deadly Carnage (+ The Infinite for their latest?)
Demonaz 
Ignea (+ The Infinite and/or The Guardians?) 
In Extremo 
Metastoll 
Nomans Land 

Apologies if any don't meet the criteria, hopefully I'm not wasting anyone's time!

I finished transferring my scores from RYM, the following are bands I couldn't find for The Horde:

Carved (ita) 
Cist (rus) 
Dethklok  
Gravestone (ita) 
Frantic Amber  
Ichor  
Darkane (also relevant for The Pit)  
Disarmonia Mundi  
Helltrain  
Ignominious Incarceration  
Job For a Cowboy  
Posthuman Abomination  
X.Kernel 
Wolfheart  
Vomitorial Corpulence  
Minushuman (also relevant for The Pit?)  
Mors Subita  
Pale King  
Raintime (also relevant for The Gateway)  
Six Feet Under  
Skeletal (fin) 
Skelethal  
Sludgehammer  
Brendon Small/Galaktikon 
Ursinne  
Vallenfyre  
Waking the Cadaver 

Apologies if any don't meet the criteria, hopefully I'm not wasting anyone's time!

I'd like to request Dub War be added if possible.

I finished transferring my scores from RYM, the following are bands I couldn't find for The Fallen:

Below
Clouds of Dementia 
Count Raven 
Darkseed 
Domkraft 
Helevorn 
Mael Mordha 
Black Pyramid 
Coldbound 
Firebreather 
Horn of the Rhino 
King Goat (also relevant for The Infinite)
Poisonblack 
Memory Garden (also relevant for The Guardians)
The Midnight Ghost Train 
My Diligence 
Ogre 
The Sabbathian 
Seventh Void 
Tuskar (UK)
Vokonis 
Wardehns 
Weltesser 
Woebegone Obscured 
Woven Man 

Apologies if any don't meet the criteria, hopefully I'm not wasting anyone's time!

Cheers!

Oh absolutely, to be clear I'm not complaining about the clans system, I like it a lot. Simply being able to jump into all of them would lessen the value of the system.

That said, I do like the sound of potentially being able to join a 4th, perhaps after some kind of goal of contributions is met. Though then I have to pick which of the remaining 6 children to keep...