Clan Playlist Feedback

First Post August 23, 2020 03:42 AM

I do like the idea of a rotating playlist, even though it'll take some serious upkeep to keep it going every single month. 

I think it'd be interesting to have each member be able to suggest a song for next month's playlist, so it's actually a Clan activity rather than forcing Daniel to leaf through his collection every single month. Obviously it will work better if the site grows, but just a thought to boost interaction for people who want to contribute. I know I'd want to throw in some 2020 stuff into Guardian/Infinite/North playlists. 

Ben
Ben
The Fallen The Horde The North The Pit
August 23, 2020 05:01 AM


I do like the idea of a rotating playlist, even though it'll take some serious upkeep to keep it going every single month. 

I think it'd be interesting to have each member be able to suggest a song for next month's playlist, so it's actually a Clan activity rather than forcing Daniel to leaf through his collection every single month. Obviously it will work better if the site grows, but just a thought to boost interaction for people who want to contribute. I know I'd want to throw in some 2020 stuff into Guardian/Infinite/North playlists. 

Quoted Xephyr

Love that idea. Daniel?

August 23, 2020 05:55 AM

Thanks for the feedback Xephyr. I like the idea too. In fact, in the long-term I was actually thinking that the responsibility for putting the monthly playlists together could sit with the senior members of each clan who could coordinate it with their fellow clan members in whatever way they felt fit as long as it covered the entire subgenre spectrum that the clan encompasses & drew upon the whole history of metal rather than just being from a specific era. This is because I see these as a way to a) draw in new members from a wide array of backgrounds & experience levels & b) I'd like people to hear something fresh & new every time they attend the Academy. 

August 23, 2020 06:25 AM

Great idea, Xephyr! Song suggestions for playlists would be a good clan activity for members, new or longtime, to check out other members' favorite songs way more than just the "Track of the Day" threads. I'll start with some suggestions for this month's Revolution playlist since it's not up yet. Daniel, please pick any of the songs from this list:

Amaranthe - "Afterlife" (from The Nexus, 2013)

August Burns Red - "Defender" (from Guardians, 2020)

Betraying the Martyrs - "Let It Go" (from Phantom, 2014)

Betraying the Martyrs - "Take Me Back" (from The Resilient, 2017)

Bullet for My Valentine - "Tears Don't Fall" (from The Poison, 2005)

Converge - "My Great Devastator" (from The Poacher Diaries (split with Agoraphobic Nosebleed), 1999)

Darkest Hour - "For the Soul of the Savior" (from The Mark of the Judas, 2000)

Trivium - "In Waves" (from In Waves, 2011)

August 23, 2020 06:45 AM

I'll counter the Trivium request with their track "In Waves" if we're doing Revolution requests, which I think is a pretty underrepresented Clan here in the Academy. If anything, after checking out "Becoming the Dragon", it means that I have to check out Trivium a bit more since I didn't know they were a thrashy band before leaning into a more Death/Metalcore angle. 

Hence why I think I'd be neat to have a "playlist request" system, I think this would help to supplement the "Track of the Day" thread like Andi previously said. 

August 23, 2020 06:51 AM
Ah yeah, "In Waves", my all-time favorite metalcore track! Thanks for the heads-up, Xephyr! I'll do a slight change in my list above.
August 24, 2020 02:47 AM

I like this concept of a playlist suggestions thread in the forums as I think having a playlist that reflects the clan's current listening habits is a nice idea. I'll start these today.

Also, I've been programming these playlists in a very specific way thus far & I don't thing it's been working very well. As a former DJ, I always used to program my sets to slowly build in intensity as the tracklisting progresses i.e. start from the lighter & least intense track & increase the intensity as the set progresses. That way there aren't any flat sections where the listener gets bored & they continually find themselves being drawn further into the music. It also ensures that there's no major drop in intensity from one track to the next which is a really bad thing for a dancefloor if you don't place & execute well. Unfortunately with metal it's meaning that the opening tracks aren't really grabbing the listener so I'm gonna change approaches for the start of the playlists moving forwards by starting with some of the bigger tunes & pulling it back for a slow build after I've grabbed the listener's attention. Check out the new playlist for The Pit that will go up shortly for an example.

August 31, 2020 11:12 PM

With the initial run of playlists I tried to allow for roughly equal inclusions for all clan subgenres in order to satisfy everyone. After listening to some of the playlists & receiving feedback from various members on the topic, Ben & I are thinking I should go for a different approach whereby the primary subgenres receive the majority of the play time & the niche subgenres only get the odd track here & there (perhaps one per playlist for most of them). It wasn't such an issue with clans like The Fallen that have much longer track lengths but was very noticeable with ones like The Gateway, The Horde, The Infinite & The Guardians which include niche subgenres (funk metal, rap metal, gorenoise, cybergrind, avant-garde metal, neoclassical metal, etc.) that not everyone likes.

Does everyone agree with that approach?

September 01, 2020 06:48 AM
Seems like a good approach Daniel, but some of us aren't into some of the primary subgenres as much as its related niche ones, like for example, I like melodic death metal but I try to avoid standard death metal/grindcore. When I wrote my list of suggestions for September's Horde playlist (which I don't know if it would count or not since The Horde was my former clan), I was thinking about those melodeath songs being a good starting point for anyone new to death metal or metal in general to begin with the more melodic stuff before digging deeper into death metal's gory brutality. You can't go straight into the highest intensity just like that, you gotta start low then build up higher for a more pleasant experience. But if you're still going with your original approach, I'm OK with that...
September 01, 2020 12:47 PM

To be fair Andi, melodic death metal is one of the more populous subgenres included in The Horde so it isn't really one of the ones I'm referring to.

September 30, 2020 10:06 PM

Hi everyone. The new October playlists for each of the nine clans have all gone live this morning. Check the associated forums for details.

September 30, 2020 11:32 PM
Nicely done with these new playlists, Daniel! In a few days from now, I plan on writing my feedback for some of the songs from the playlists for my current clans plus my former clan The Horde. Don't worry, I'll still do suggestions for November's playlists, I just need some time to think. Stay tuned for my feedback!
October 17, 2020 01:29 AM

Hi everyone. Just a heads up that I've changed the naming convention for the monthly clan playlists. Xephyr mentioned that the original convention was a little awkward to navigate from his smart phone due to key information being truncated (i.e. the month & clan) & after investigating it myself I found that I agreed with him. In order to rectify this problem, I've now renamed them all in this format:

Oct 2020 "The Sphere" Playlist - Metal Academy Radio

This should eradicate the truncation problem but let me know if you have any further suggestions in this space.